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		<title>By: Kieran</title>
		<link>http://thesituationist.wordpress.com/2007/10/21/hey-dove-talk-to-your-parent/#comment-58166</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kieran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 07:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really no matter if someone doesn&#039;t know afterward its up to other users that they will help, so here it happens.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really no matter if someone doesn&#8217;t know afterward its up to other users that they will help, so here it happens.</p>
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		<title>By: "Real Beauty"</title>
		<link>http://thesituationist.wordpress.com/2007/10/21/hey-dove-talk-to-your-parent/#comment-24414</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA["Real Beauty"]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 06:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t understand exactly what Dove means by real beauty. &quot;You&#039;re perfect the way you are; don&#039;t change for anyone.&quot; That is a load of shit. No one is perfect but women just don&#039;t sit there saying, &quot;I was born this way and I&#039;m fine with it.&quot; Or other bullshit along those lines the only reason people are fat is because they accept it. Don&#039;t ever say it&#039;s just genetics because that&#039;s just an ignorant thing to say; sure your genes are going to have an affect on your body type but that doesn&#039;t mean you&#039;re stuck with what you got, I don&#039;t mean get lipo-suction, implants, or some fucking surgery, you know why? Because that&#039;s false satisfaction - you need to exercise and eat healthy. They say pride is a sin but it&#039;s not, pride is a virtue, it&#039;s self-respect, it is your self image. People say if you&#039;re fat and confident it&#039;s great, but it&#039;s not, that&#039;s vanity. You&#039;re just a smug bitch or son of a bitch walking around with a false sense of accomplishment. Everybody gets the figure and physique they deserve. Pride yourself on the body you want when you finally get it because then that&#039;s something to be proud about. Pride is a virtue but you have to earn it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand exactly what Dove means by real beauty. &#8220;You&#8217;re perfect the way you are; don&#8217;t change for anyone.&#8221; That is a load of shit. No one is perfect but women just don&#8217;t sit there saying, &#8220;I was born this way and I&#8217;m fine with it.&#8221; Or other bullshit along those lines the only reason people are fat is because they accept it. Don&#8217;t ever say it&#8217;s just genetics because that&#8217;s just an ignorant thing to say; sure your genes are going to have an affect on your body type but that doesn&#8217;t mean you&#8217;re stuck with what you got, I don&#8217;t mean get lipo-suction, implants, or some fucking surgery, you know why? Because that&#8217;s false satisfaction &#8211; you need to exercise and eat healthy. They say pride is a sin but it&#8217;s not, pride is a virtue, it&#8217;s self-respect, it is your self image. People say if you&#8217;re fat and confident it&#8217;s great, but it&#8217;s not, that&#8217;s vanity. You&#8217;re just a smug bitch or son of a bitch walking around with a false sense of accomplishment. Everybody gets the figure and physique they deserve. Pride yourself on the body you want when you finally get it because then that&#8217;s something to be proud about. Pride is a virtue but you have to earn it.</p>
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		<title>By: Liza</title>
		<link>http://thesituationist.wordpress.com/2007/10/21/hey-dove-talk-to-your-parent/#comment-22132</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liza]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 15:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would like to personally thank everyone involved in the Dove Campaign for Real Beauty.  They have challenged the stereotypical image of women and celebrated age, ethnicity and different body types.  The message that they have been sending is so different than the usual &quot;you have to be young, beautiful, thin, and white to be a woman&quot; message that one hears from the media.  This campaign is so empowering to women.  It is telling us that you are perfect the way you are; don&#039;t change for anyone and it is such a breath of fresh air to finally hear someone speaking out.  So thank you for your positive message; it is truly making a difference in many lives!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to personally thank everyone involved in the Dove Campaign for Real Beauty.  They have challenged the stereotypical image of women and celebrated age, ethnicity and different body types.  The message that they have been sending is so different than the usual &#8220;you have to be young, beautiful, thin, and white to be a woman&#8221; message that one hears from the media.  This campaign is so empowering to women.  It is telling us that you are perfect the way you are; don&#8217;t change for anyone and it is such a breath of fresh air to finally hear someone speaking out.  So thank you for your positive message; it is truly making a difference in many lives!</p>
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		<title>By: Sample of Situationist Posts &#171;</title>
		<link>http://thesituationist.wordpress.com/2007/10/21/hey-dove-talk-to-your-parent/#comment-16190</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dove Campaign for Real Beauty &#171; tvSmarter</title>
		<link>http://thesituationist.wordpress.com/2007/10/21/hey-dove-talk-to-your-parent/#comment-15636</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dove Campaign for Real Beauty &#171; tvSmarter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 10:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Dove Campaign for Real&#160;Beauty October 4, 2009 &#8212; terry33   Jon Hanson has written an excellent takedown of the &#8220;Dove Campaign for Real Beauty&#8221;. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Dove Campaign for Real&nbsp;Beauty October 4, 2009 &#8212; terry33   Jon Hanson has written an excellent takedown of the &#8220;Dove Campaign for Real Beauty&#8221;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie</title>
		<link>http://thesituationist.wordpress.com/2007/10/21/hey-dove-talk-to-your-parent/#comment-15366</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carrie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know, I believe the entire &quot;beauty&quot; idea isn&#039;t something we can actually control. It comes from ancient history and shall remain an important subject, silly as it may seem, for as long as we probably can imagine. The grand problem nowadays is that the entire definition has slanted too much towards the anorexic side, making adolescents today believe they HAVE to be nearly boney to fit into the standards. And, though families have the obligation to teach their children that the &quot;real&quot; beauty comes from within, this is also something that escapes our grasp. As much reinforcement a child or teenager might have from their home, we all know that there are CRUEL kids in school just waiting for their next prey, as well as the child&#039;s own need to resemble his companions. If 90% of the kids in school are stick thin, then there&#039;s a high chance that the well-fed, not even chubby, shall want to be so, too.

I believe Dove is just a brand trying to make money, using all smart tactics possible, and, if it was necessary to attack a younger audience, then so it did. I do agree, though regarding the Axe subject. Though they&#039;re funny, they represent, first, the completely machist society that can&#039;t let go of the thought that just any guy can(and has to) get the &quot;perfect&quot;(on the outside) woman. It&#039;s ridiculous that Dove has an anti-stereotype campaign, and one that reinforces stereotypes.

Beauty is considered, by most, in the end, to be something that comes from within, but, we all live in a shallow society, led by people like Paris Hilton, supposedly pretty, but a repulsive, egotistical brat.

BTW, I find it oddly disturbing, that Dove flaunts its beauty campaign so proudly, when it is a company that tests its products on animals, something that to many means nothing, but results proof of their own &quot;inner beauty&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I believe the entire &#8220;beauty&#8221; idea isn&#8217;t something we can actually control. It comes from ancient history and shall remain an important subject, silly as it may seem, for as long as we probably can imagine. The grand problem nowadays is that the entire definition has slanted too much towards the anorexic side, making adolescents today believe they HAVE to be nearly boney to fit into the standards. And, though families have the obligation to teach their children that the &#8220;real&#8221; beauty comes from within, this is also something that escapes our grasp. As much reinforcement a child or teenager might have from their home, we all know that there are CRUEL kids in school just waiting for their next prey, as well as the child&#8217;s own need to resemble his companions. If 90% of the kids in school are stick thin, then there&#8217;s a high chance that the well-fed, not even chubby, shall want to be so, too.</p>
<p>I believe Dove is just a brand trying to make money, using all smart tactics possible, and, if it was necessary to attack a younger audience, then so it did. I do agree, though regarding the Axe subject. Though they&#8217;re funny, they represent, first, the completely machist society that can&#8217;t let go of the thought that just any guy can(and has to) get the &#8220;perfect&#8221;(on the outside) woman. It&#8217;s ridiculous that Dove has an anti-stereotype campaign, and one that reinforces stereotypes.</p>
<p>Beauty is considered, by most, in the end, to be something that comes from within, but, we all live in a shallow society, led by people like Paris Hilton, supposedly pretty, but a repulsive, egotistical brat.</p>
<p>BTW, I find it oddly disturbing, that Dove flaunts its beauty campaign so proudly, when it is a company that tests its products on animals, something that to many means nothing, but results proof of their own &#8220;inner beauty&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tokyogodfather</title>
		<link>http://thesituationist.wordpress.com/2007/10/21/hey-dove-talk-to-your-parent/#comment-14375</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tokyogodfather]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;cite&gt;Speaking of real beauty, and real women, where are the Asian women,&lt;/cite&gt;

You know, I was wondering that too Natalie, until I realized as I looked around me in Japan, that most Asian women would look incredibly slender next to the women in this ad.  As many of you already say that these women are too slender AS IS, I think adding an Asian woman would have just looked like they were re-inforcing the &quot;slender&quot; ideal.  The Asian man next to me took one look at the women in this ad and said, &quot;Wow, they are VERY fat, ne?&quot; and smiled.  Interestingly enough he meant it as a good thing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>Speaking of real beauty, and real women, where are the Asian women,</cite></p>
<p>You know, I was wondering that too Natalie, until I realized as I looked around me in Japan, that most Asian women would look incredibly slender next to the women in this ad.  As many of you already say that these women are too slender AS IS, I think adding an Asian woman would have just looked like they were re-inforcing the &#8220;slender&#8221; ideal.  The Asian man next to me took one look at the women in this ad and said, &#8220;Wow, they are VERY fat, ne?&#8221; and smiled.  Interestingly enough he meant it as a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: tamara</title>
		<link>http://thesituationist.wordpress.com/2007/10/21/hey-dove-talk-to-your-parent/#comment-14286</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tamara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And why does beauty matter so much for women anyway that it should be a topic for our daughters?  THAT is the big assumption behind all of this - the thing that is taken for granted as a fact of the world and which Dove and many observers would like to absolve advertising in creating, recreating, reinforcing and reconstituting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And why does beauty matter so much for women anyway that it should be a topic for our daughters?  THAT is the big assumption behind all of this &#8211; the thing that is taken for granted as a fact of the world and which Dove and many observers would like to absolve advertising in creating, recreating, reinforcing and reconstituting.</p>
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		<title>By: rammkatze</title>
		<link>http://thesituationist.wordpress.com/2007/10/21/hey-dove-talk-to-your-parent/#comment-14080</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rammkatze]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 09:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m surprised how manny commenters here missed some of the main points made by the author. I for one laugh really had at almost every single Axe commercial.

But then again, the attack on the Axe ads is pointing at the hypocrisy of the company who sells both the impossible beauty standard AND the campaign agains that said beauty standard.

I&#039;m also not one of the women who go around screaming that the publicity is putting a lot of pressure on me. I have a BMI of 35,2 and I don&#039;t hate models. They&#039;re not to blame that I&#039;m fat. They never tied me to a chair and force fed me. They never looked down on me from an outdoor and said &quot;I&#039;m way better than you.&quot;, I usually get a &quot;this lingerie is sexy!&quot; or something like that.

I&#039;d love to kiss your feet for this post, man! I found out about it while googling for dove ads as research for a post on my blog against such campaign! My first reaction to the very first Dove ad I saw on &quot;real beauty&quot; (some cream against cellulitis) was a big grin and a &quot;nicely plaid...&quot;. Not surprisingly, the Dove had a profit of +600% that year! What really is ingenious is how Dove picks up the only thing harder to find than a very thin girl - which is a fat girl with no cellulitis - and manages to throw sand in the eyes of so many cellulitis-troubles women into buying their products. Because these women feel flattered and don&#039;t realize that just like in an ad for cellulitis products with a skinny model whose legs never seen celullitis her whole life, the legs of those &quot;fat&quot; models also never seen celullitis once in their whole lives, and it was not thanks to Dove that they got rid of something they never had!

And then it just went on and on and on and I could kill Dove, because more than selling &quot;Real beauty&quot;, the slogans made it look like a campaign more like &quot;Lookit us! We&#039;re so cool because we don&#039;t use skinny women!&quot;. Dove makes a video about photoshopping in ads and tries to make us believe that every pretty ad-face is a photoshopped regular face, like I&#039;m that naive! And like there are no natural pretty faces but the ones on their campaigns. Dove photoshops every picture too - fat chicks with no stretchmarks? Why, that&#039;s even rarer than fat chicks with  no cellulitis!

Anyway, I&#039;m saving further rants for my blog entry and leave you here a big kudos! I will defenitely mention this post on my blog!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised how manny commenters here missed some of the main points made by the author. I for one laugh really had at almost every single Axe commercial.</p>
<p>But then again, the attack on the Axe ads is pointing at the hypocrisy of the company who sells both the impossible beauty standard AND the campaign agains that said beauty standard.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also not one of the women who go around screaming that the publicity is putting a lot of pressure on me. I have a BMI of 35,2 and I don&#8217;t hate models. They&#8217;re not to blame that I&#8217;m fat. They never tied me to a chair and force fed me. They never looked down on me from an outdoor and said &#8220;I&#8217;m way better than you.&#8221;, I usually get a &#8220;this lingerie is sexy!&#8221; or something like that.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to kiss your feet for this post, man! I found out about it while googling for dove ads as research for a post on my blog against such campaign! My first reaction to the very first Dove ad I saw on &#8220;real beauty&#8221; (some cream against cellulitis) was a big grin and a &#8220;nicely plaid&#8230;&#8221;. Not surprisingly, the Dove had a profit of +600% that year! What really is ingenious is how Dove picks up the only thing harder to find than a very thin girl &#8211; which is a fat girl with no cellulitis &#8211; and manages to throw sand in the eyes of so many cellulitis-troubles women into buying their products. Because these women feel flattered and don&#8217;t realize that just like in an ad for cellulitis products with a skinny model whose legs never seen celullitis her whole life, the legs of those &#8220;fat&#8221; models also never seen celullitis once in their whole lives, and it was not thanks to Dove that they got rid of something they never had!</p>
<p>And then it just went on and on and on and I could kill Dove, because more than selling &#8220;Real beauty&#8221;, the slogans made it look like a campaign more like &#8220;Lookit us! We&#8217;re so cool because we don&#8217;t use skinny women!&#8221;. Dove makes a video about photoshopping in ads and tries to make us believe that every pretty ad-face is a photoshopped regular face, like I&#8217;m that naive! And like there are no natural pretty faces but the ones on their campaigns. Dove photoshops every picture too &#8211; fat chicks with no stretchmarks? Why, that&#8217;s even rarer than fat chicks with  no cellulitis!</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m saving further rants for my blog entry and leave you here a big kudos! I will defenitely mention this post on my blog!</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Z.</title>
		<link>http://thesituationist.wordpress.com/2007/10/21/hey-dove-talk-to-your-parent/#comment-13950</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken Z.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 07:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Real men dont need Axe. Anyways, wonderful work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Real men dont need Axe. Anyways, wonderful work.</p>
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