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		<title>By: Asian Male Takes Hostages at Discovery Channel HQ (and Comparisons to Virginia Tech) &#171; reappropriate</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Asian Male Takes Hostages at Discovery Channel HQ (and Comparisons to Virginia Tech) &#171; reappropriate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 02:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] had a return address to &#8220;A. Ishmael&#8221;, suggesting that Seung-Hui Cho was trying to reinvent himself in reference to either the biblical figure or the 1992 Quinn novel&#8217;s primate protagonist. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] had a return address to &#8220;A. Ishmael&#8221;, suggesting that Seung-Hui Cho was trying to reinvent himself in reference to either the biblical figure or the 1992 Quinn novel&#8217;s primate protagonist. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: March Madness &#171; The Situationist</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[March Madness &#171; The Situationist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Basketball,&#8221; &#8220;Some (Interior) Situational Sources War – Part I,&#8221; &#8220;Deindividuation and Seung Hui Cho,&#8221; &#8220;The Origins of Sports Team Fandom,&#8221; &#8220;Attributing Blame — from the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Basketball,&#8221; &#8220;Some (Interior) Situational Sources War – Part I,&#8221; &#8220;Deindividuation and Seung Hui Cho,&#8221; &#8220;The Origins of Sports Team Fandom,&#8221; &#8220;Attributing Blame — from the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: de Rham</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 22:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cho Seung Hui epitomizes what it means to be an American/Westerner. He&#039;s just emulating what we Americans did to the Indians, to the Phillipines, etc. Congratulations Cho Seung Hui, you were Western Civilization incarnate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cho Seung Hui epitomizes what it means to be an American/Westerner. He&#8217;s just emulating what we Americans did to the Indians, to the Phillipines, etc. Congratulations Cho Seung Hui, you were Western Civilization incarnate.</p>
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		<title>By: rootlesscosmo</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 06:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A problem for this idea is that, for every mass killer or torturer who was &quot;deindividuated&quot; before committing acts of violence and cruelty, it&#039;s pretty easy to find at least one who wasn&#039;t--Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, Wayne Gacy--while the &quot;intellectual authors&quot; of the greatest crimes, the Hitlers and Stalins et al., are highly &quot;individuated&quot; as Great Leaders, their faces not masked but endlessly displayed and glorified.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A problem for this idea is that, for every mass killer or torturer who was &#8220;deindividuated&#8221; before committing acts of violence and cruelty, it&#8217;s pretty easy to find at least one who wasn&#8217;t&#8211;Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, Wayne Gacy&#8211;while the &#8220;intellectual authors&#8221; of the greatest crimes, the Hitlers and Stalins et al., are highly &#8220;individuated&#8221; as Great Leaders, their faces not masked but endlessly displayed and glorified.</p>
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		<title>By: Feminist Law Professors &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Effects of Anonymity</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Feminist Law Professors &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Effects of Anonymity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 10:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Deindividuation and Seung Hui Cho at The Situationist. Below is an [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Stuart Buck</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stuart Buck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Prof. Hanson!

This is a great blog, full of fascinating stuff.  Here&#039;s the one little thing that I don&#039;t get, however: What&#039;s up with all the law professor blogs these days (this one, Jurisdynamics, Money Law, etc.) that tack on so many pictures?   The first picture in this post isn&#039;t even about Cho.  (I guess it&#039;s supposed to be an example of deindividuation.)  Worse, consider this &lt;a href=&quot;http://money-law.blogspot.com/2007/06/specific-rakings.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;typical&lt;/a&gt; Money-Law post -- two pictures, neither of which seems relevant at all.  Anyway, it&#039;s no big deal, except that it takes a lot longer for these types of blogs to load compared to, say, Volokh, who uses pictures more sparingly (i.e., where relevant and necessary).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Prof. Hanson!</p>
<p>This is a great blog, full of fascinating stuff.  Here&#8217;s the one little thing that I don&#8217;t get, however: What&#8217;s up with all the law professor blogs these days (this one, Jurisdynamics, Money Law, etc.) that tack on so many pictures?   The first picture in this post isn&#8217;t even about Cho.  (I guess it&#8217;s supposed to be an example of deindividuation.)  Worse, consider this <a href="http://money-law.blogspot.com/2007/06/specific-rakings.html" rel="nofollow">typical</a> Money-Law post &#8212; two pictures, neither of which seems relevant at all.  Anyway, it&#8217;s no big deal, except that it takes a lot longer for these types of blogs to load compared to, say, Volokh, who uses pictures more sparingly (i.e., where relevant and necessary).</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 22:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i wonder if islamic terrorists would behave the same if they had no masks?  i say we close all the mask stores in gaza and the west bank for starters and see what happens.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wonder if islamic terrorists would behave the same if they had no masks?  i say we close all the mask stores in gaza and the west bank for starters and see what happens.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Chung</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Chung]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 05:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fascinating article and one that makes a valid point.  In the figurative as well as literal sense, there definitely seems to be a certain disconnect between the masked man and the unmasked man.  For instance, professional athletes such as Ronnie Lott (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/2000/halloffame/news/2000/07/27/hof_lott_ap/) frequently proclaim that they are caring and non-violent individuals off the field but when they put on their uniforms they turn into different, more intense beings.  The simple act of putting on the uniform makes them feel more responsible for helping the team on the field, by any means necessary, than to clinging to their off-the-field individual values or personalities.

If such deindividuation could work for athletes playing a game with rules dictating the parameters of their physicality and violence, it is logical that social misfits such as Seung Hui Cho, Kimveer Gill, Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris would gravitate to this idea in order to stiffen their spine and follow through with these heinous acts.  By all accounts, these young men were meek outcasts and did not possess as individuals the necessary courage to confront their own demons and classmates let alone commit these horrible acts.  However, by reinventing themselves as uniformed angels of death (with their quasi-militaristic clothing and militaristic weaponry) they did not have to associate their actions with themselves nor their individual moral codes.  Instead, they could delude themselves into viewing their actions as some sort of larger moral cause and themselves as martyrs as Seung Hui Cho did.

If we were to extrapolate the argument and conclusions advanced by this article - namely that changes in external appearance (such as uniforms) can radicalize the uniformed person&#039;s behaviour - it would appear that deindividuation is a two-way street and that the public perception and treatment of those with altered external appearances can change drastically.  For example, there is often less public and media outrage when uniformed soldiers or police officers are killed in battle than when civilians or non-uniformed officials are the victims.  We may subconsciously tend to associate these authority figures as cogs of their respective organizations (and thus as expendable resources) rather than as individuals.  The deindividuation that the uniform affords may colour society&#039;s expectations of the uniformed as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating article and one that makes a valid point.  In the figurative as well as literal sense, there definitely seems to be a certain disconnect between the masked man and the unmasked man.  For instance, professional athletes such as Ronnie Lott (<a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/2000/halloffame/news/2000/07/27/hof_lott_ap/" rel="nofollow">http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/2000/halloffame/news/2000/07/27/hof_lott_ap/</a>) frequently proclaim that they are caring and non-violent individuals off the field but when they put on their uniforms they turn into different, more intense beings.  The simple act of putting on the uniform makes them feel more responsible for helping the team on the field, by any means necessary, than to clinging to their off-the-field individual values or personalities.</p>
<p>If such deindividuation could work for athletes playing a game with rules dictating the parameters of their physicality and violence, it is logical that social misfits such as Seung Hui Cho, Kimveer Gill, Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris would gravitate to this idea in order to stiffen their spine and follow through with these heinous acts.  By all accounts, these young men were meek outcasts and did not possess as individuals the necessary courage to confront their own demons and classmates let alone commit these horrible acts.  However, by reinventing themselves as uniformed angels of death (with their quasi-militaristic clothing and militaristic weaponry) they did not have to associate their actions with themselves nor their individual moral codes.  Instead, they could delude themselves into viewing their actions as some sort of larger moral cause and themselves as martyrs as Seung Hui Cho did.</p>
<p>If we were to extrapolate the argument and conclusions advanced by this article &#8211; namely that changes in external appearance (such as uniforms) can radicalize the uniformed person&#8217;s behaviour &#8211; it would appear that deindividuation is a two-way street and that the public perception and treatment of those with altered external appearances can change drastically.  For example, there is often less public and media outrage when uniformed soldiers or police officers are killed in battle than when civilians or non-uniformed officials are the victims.  We may subconsciously tend to associate these authority figures as cogs of their respective organizations (and thus as expendable resources) rather than as individuals.  The deindividuation that the uniform affords may colour society&#8217;s expectations of the uniformed as well.</p>
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